Neo Catching Falling Trinity

[cybersoldier01]

I have watched this sequence many, many times, and based on everything I am
seeing I have to wonder: How is it that Trinity survived at all? Not from
the shot from the agent or from impacting the ground (as Neo's dream would
have it), but from impacting NEO when he caught her?

A few observations:

1) When Neo exploded out of the building where he met the Architect, Link
said that he was moving faster than anything he has ever seen. We are going
to assume for a moment that Link has seen how fast a bullet moves inside the
Matrix, and that it does not cause his Matrix feed to react the way Neo did
when he raced into the Winslow Overpass to save Morpheus and the Keymaker.
(The exact speed of a fired bullet is not as relevant as my next points.)

2) Trinity was on the sixty-fifth floor when she encountered and fought the
agent. Both Link and the security camera at the sleepy guard's station
confirmed that she is indeed on the sixty-fifth floor (the next time you
watch the security monitor, note the lower right-hand corner the words "LEV
65-S7" - the "S7" probably meaning "sector 7"). When she began falling out
of the window she was moving in a straight, downward direction, with no
horizontal motion.

3) At some point during Neo journey to the point when he caught Trinity, we
hear a distinct "boom" in the background as he visibly picked up speed. We
cannot say whether he actually broke the sound barrier, but it is probably
safe to assume that he has moved beyond his original speed by a large
margin. (Again, bear in mind that his current speed is unparalleled by
anything Link has ever seen.)

4) When he managed to catch Trinity, she was not in a position to
anticipate his presence and therefore has no way of bracing herself or
adjusting for his tremendous speed. At any rate, she should have died upon
impact with Neo who was travelling at a tremendous speed. She should not
have lived later at all, much less uttered anything to Neo upon landing on
the roof of a nearby building. Even if Neo was "only" travelling at the
speed of an average bullet coming out of a handgun, the energy coming from
Neo's body mass (which we assume to exist inside the Matrix, as evidenced by
so many Kung Fu fights) and travelling at such speed should have broken her
body immediately.

5) There is only one exception to #4 above: If he was somehow able to stop
briefly to allow for his overall momentum to drop to zero, catch Trinity,
and then resume his previous speed. From the way he can take off into the
night sky to the way he can suddenly halt on top of where the Oracle used to
hold her "auditions", we assume that that is not out of the question for The
One. However, nothing we have seen in this particular sequence could
substantiate this claim. One moment she was going downward, the next moment
she was going horizontal.

6) Finally, we note that she fell from the sixty-fifth floor. In his
conversation with the Oracle, Neo noted that he saw Trinity in his vision,
and then she began to fall. We are going to assume that Neo thinks that if
Trinity falls to the ground from that height, she will die (otherwise, he
would not have sufficient reason to save her, as she would simply be alright
or mildly inconvenienced). So death is at stake, by merely falling out of
the sixty-fifth floor. Assuming that each floor is 8 feet in height, she
would take about four seconds or so to impact the ground (we assume that
"basic rules" like gravity operate normally in this scenario), at which
point she would be travelling close to 130 feet per second, or about 88
miles per hour. Math is approximate, but you see the point: If she dies
from merely impacting the ground, she would be pulverized by hitting Neo,
who is travelling at unheard-of speed.

Anyway, I've used enough brain cells to post these thoughts. Any
takers/responders?

CS

[James Willmott]

Post by cybersoldier01
I have watched this sequence many, many times, and based on everything I am
seeing I have to wonder: How is it that Trinity survived at all? Not from
the shot from the agent or from impacting the ground (as Neo's dream would
have it), but from impacting NEO when he caught her?

All your observations would hold true in the real world, Trinity would
have died. Neo, according to Morpheus, is able to rebuild the Matrix as
he sees fit. Maybe he reduced Trinity's mass to zero, or just caused the
physics engine to ignore her when he connected???

[Lord-Data]

Exactly .. he has the ability to completely defy physics .. he might not be
at the stage of altering trinities at that point, but the fact hes at that
speed, means hes beyond physics .. what says he has any weight at all? any
energy at all? I mean .. the "physics" program of the matrix, is not
excerting any forces on him, hes doing it all himself .. so hes probably a
zero to the physics program, thus, no impact on trinity at all .. she just
suddenly began moving at speed ..

Post by James Willmott

Post by cybersoldier01
I have watched this sequence many, many times, and based on everything I am
seeing I have to wonder: How is it that Trinity survived at all? Not from
the shot from the agent or from impacting the ground (as Neo's dream would
have it), but from impacting NEO when he caught her?

All your observations would hold true in the real world, Trinity would
have died. Neo, according to Morpheus, is able to rebuild the Matrix as
he sees fit. Maybe he reduced Trinity's mass to zero, or just caused the
physics engine to ignore her when he connected???

[JPM III]

--- James Willmott wrote in

Post by James Willmott

Post by cybersoldier01
I have watched this sequence many, many times, and based on everything
I am seeing I have to wonder: How is it that Trinity survived at all?
Not from the shot from the agent or from impacting the ground (as Neo's
dream would have it), but from impacting NEO when he caught her?

All your observations would hold true in the real world, Trinity would
have died. Neo, according to Morpheus, is able to rebuild the Matrix as
he sees fit. Maybe he reduced Trinity's mass to zero, or just caused the
physics engine to ignore her when he connected???

If Jue, in Final Flight of the Osiris, can jump off of buildings and land on
her feet on the sidewalk, then Neo can catch a falling Trinity without
causing much harm. After all, everything she experiences in the Matrix is
only in her mind, and I'm of the impression that Trinity has one of the
strongest minds of everyone who hacks into the Matrix.

Once inside, they are only variables to be manipulated within the system.
Neo merely moved her to another point in the system, and she accepted the
movement. There was no literal, physical jolt of any kind -- only her mind
interpreting the electronic signals.

[Sandman]

Post by cybersoldier01
I have watched this sequence many, many times, and based on everything I am
seeing I have to wonder: How is it that Trinity survived at all?

Neo is the one.

[Diogo Bastos]

Either that or the Wachowskis didn't even think about that which is what
probably happened since they knew there would always be the excuse "Neo is
the one". :p

Post by Sandman

Post by cybersoldier01
I have watched this sequence many, many times, and based on everything I am
seeing I have to wonder: How is it that Trinity survived at all?

Neo is the one.
--
Sandman[.net]

[cybersoldier01]

Well, this excuse - "Neo is the One" - is precisely the type of argument
that seems to be an easy-out when we speak of inconsistencies. I had wanted
to avoid, as much as possible, using this sort of argument in my discourse.
To me, even if the movie is not consistent with what we perceive as reality,
at the very least it needs to be consistent with itself and its own claims
in order for the audience to suspend - if only for two hours - disbelief.

CS

Post by Diogo Bastos
Either that or the Wachowskis didn't even think about that which is what
probably happened since they knew there would always be the excuse "Neo is
the one". :p

Post by Sandman

Post by cybersoldier01
I have watched this sequence many, many times, and based on everything

I

Post by Diogo Bastos
am

Post by Sandman

Post by cybersoldier01
seeing I have to wonder: How is it that Trinity survived at all?

Neo is the one.
--
Sandman[.net]

[Lord-Data]

Hes travelling at faster than the speed of a bullet, under his own will
power. He is WELL beyond any means of physics, why should some rules apply
if others dont? Woudlnt the wind against him at those speeds shred him to
pieces? The smallest fleck of dust? Why doesnt it? Because he is not part of
the system .. he is above the physics program, and hence, is just moving
beyond its controls or effects. And hence, if he is beyond physics in all
other respects, why does he have to have a represented mass at all? an
impact with an objct of 0 mass, at no matter what speed, causes no damage.

He can propell himself to such speeds from a standing start with no
ill-effects on himself, so no reason why he cant do the same to Trinity ..

Post by cybersoldier01
Well, this excuse - "Neo is the One" - is precisely the type of argument
that seems to be an easy-out when we speak of inconsistencies. I had wanted
to avoid, as much as possible, using this sort of argument in my discourse.
To me, even if the movie is not consistent with what we perceive as reality,
at the very least it needs to be consistent with itself and its own claims
in order for the audience to suspend - if only for two hours - disbelief.
CS

Post by Diogo Bastos
Either that or the Wachowskis didn't even think about that which is what
probably happened since they knew there would always be the excuse "Neo is
the one". :p

Post by Sandman

Post by cybersoldier01
I have watched this sequence many, many times, and based on everything

I

Post by Diogo Bastos
am

Post by Sandman

Post by cybersoldier01
seeing I have to wonder: How is it that Trinity survived at all?

Neo is the one.
--
Sandman[.net]

[JPM III]

Why are we discussing this in terms of Neo's ability? Trinity's survival of
Neo's catch isn't entirely reliant on Neo's ability (on the other hand, he
is her savior when it comes to removing bullets and revitalizing her
vitals).

Quite the contrary: it's all a simulation, and her mind is fully aware of
that, so her body never interprets the physical impact -- rather, like a
data object would in any other computer system, it accepts being moved to
another virtual location within the simulation.

Inside the Matrix, they are complexities of 0's and 1's that have the power
to bend or break the rules. Why not here?

Post by Lord-Data
Hes travelling at faster than the speed of a bullet, under his own will
power. He is WELL beyond any means of physics, why should some rules apply
if others dont? Woudlnt the wind against him at those speeds shred him to
pieces? The smallest fleck of dust? Why doesnt it? Because he is not part
of the system .. he is above the physics program, and hence, is just
moving beyond its controls or effects. And hence, if he is beyond physics
in all other respects, why does he have to have a represented mass at
all? an impact with an objct of 0 mass, at no matter what speed, causes
no damage.
He can propell himself to such speeds from a standing start with no
ill-effects on himself, so no reason why he cant do the same to Trinity ..

Post by cybersoldier01
Well, this excuse - "Neo is the One" - is precisely the type of argument
that seems to be an easy-out when we speak of inconsistencies. I had
wanted to avoid, as much as possible, using this sort of argument in my
discourse. To me, even if the movie is not consistent with what we
perceive as reality, at the very least it needs to be consistent with
itself and its own claims in order for the audience to suspend - if
only for two hours - disbelief.
CS

Post by Diogo Bastos
Either that or the Wachowskis didn't even think about that which is
what probably happened since they knew there would always be the
excuse "Neo is the one". :p

Post by Sandman

Post by cybersoldier01
I have watched this sequence many, many times, and based on

everything

Post by cybersoldier01
I

Post by Diogo Bastos
am

Post by Sandman

Post by cybersoldier01
seeing I have to wonder: How is it that Trinity survived at all?

Neo is the one.
--
Sandman[.net]

[Lord-Data]

Post by JPM III
Why are we discussing this in terms of Neo's ability? Trinity's survival of
Neo's catch isn't entirely reliant on Neo's ability (on the other hand, he
is her savior when it comes to removing bullets and revitalizing her
vitals).
Quite the contrary: it's all a simulation, and her mind is fully aware of
that, so her body never interprets the physical impact -- rather, like a
data object would in any other computer system, it accepts being moved to
another virtual location within the simulation.

True, but she didnt see it coming .. and she is more of the category of
"bend the rules", not "break the rules". Until neo/smith, the zionists that
hack the matrix were generally bending the rules .. jumping high, landing
without impact, but not totally throwing the rules out the window .. she
didnt see neo coming, and had no reason to expect him to even be there ..
even if neo HAD told her his dreams, but I doubt he had .. She still fears
the bullets, and was going to die from the bullet that hit her, and thats as
much a physical force as neo grabbing her .. so I think it was more neo's
effort than hers in this case .. But thats not to say she didnt have a hand
in helping her self as well ..

But I agree with what you said in another post, Trinity is definitly one of
the strongest minds, hacking the matrix, aside from Neo.

Post by JPM III
Inside the Matrix, they are complexities of 0's and 1's that have the power
to bend or break the rules. Why not here?

Post by Lord-Data
Hes travelling at faster than the speed of a bullet, under his own will
power. He is WELL beyond any means of physics, why should some rules apply
if others dont? Woudlnt the wind against him at those speeds shred him to
pieces? The smallest fleck of dust? Why doesnt it? Because he is not part
of the system .. he is above the physics program, and hence, is just
moving beyond its controls or effects. And hence, if he is beyond physics
in all other respects, why does he have to have a represented mass at
all? an impact with an objct of 0 mass, at no matter what speed, causes
no damage.
He can propell himself to such speeds from a standing start with no
ill-effects on himself, so no reason why he cant do the same to Trinity ..

Post by cybersoldier01
Well, this excuse - "Neo is the One" - is precisely the type of argument
that seems to be an easy-out when we speak of inconsistencies. I had
wanted to avoid, as much as possible, using this sort of argument in my
discourse. To me, even if the movie is not consistent with what we
perceive as reality, at the very least it needs to be consistent with
itself and its own claims in order for the audience to suspend - if
only for two hours - disbelief.
CS

Post by Diogo Bastos
Either that or the Wachowskis didn't even think about that which is
what probably happened since they knew there would always be the
excuse "Neo is the one". :p

Post by Sandman

Post by cybersoldier01
I have watched this sequence many, many times, and based on

everything

Post by cybersoldier01
I

Post by Diogo Bastos
am

Post by Sandman

Post by cybersoldier01
seeing I have to wonder: How is it that Trinity survived at all?

Neo is the one.
--
Sandman[.net]

[JPM III]

Post by Lord-Data

Post by JPM III
Why are we discussing this in terms of Neo's ability? Trinity's
survival of Neo's catch isn't entirely reliant on Neo's ability (on the
other hand, he is her savior when it comes to removing bullets and
revitalizing her vitals).
Quite the contrary: it's all a simulation, and her mind is fully aware
of that, so her body never interprets the physical impact -- rather,
like a data object would in any other computer system, it accepts being
moved to another virtual location within the simulation.

True, but she didnt see it coming ..

She didn't see ANYTHING coming. She was in shock after being shot. Further,
accepting that "it isn't air that you're breathing", gravity is not
absolute, going through brick walls isn't painful, and jumping 50 feet is
easy... I'm guessing that being caught by Neo, regardless of the supposed
worry of impact, wouldn't be too much trouble.

Post by Lord-Data
and she is more of the category of
"bend the rules", not "break the rules". Until neo/smith, the zionists
that hack the matrix were generally bending the rules .. jumping high,
landing without impact, but not totally throwing the rules out the window
.. she didnt see neo coming, and had no reason to expect him to even be
there .. even if neo HAD told her his dreams, but I doubt he had .. She
still fears the bullets, and was going to die from the bullet that hit
her, and thats as much a physical force as neo grabbing her .. so I think
it was more neo's effort than hers in this case .. But thats not to say
she didnt have a hand in helping her self as well ..

She survived because she has been trained so well to believe that, inside
the Matrix, everything is illusory. The impact didn't kill her because...
there was no impact. Notice how in all their fight scenes, impacts never
killed them, but bullets did (why?). Smith could punch through walls or hit
Morpheus and Neo with the same force without killing them... So they were
less succeptible to damage via impact.

[Gavin Smith]

Arrogantly twisting the sterile canvas snoot of a fully charged icing
anointment utensil, cybersoldier01 <***@yahoo.com> poots
forth...

Post by cybersoldier01
Well, this excuse - "Neo is the One" - is precisely the type of argument
that seems to be an easy-out when we speak of inconsistencies.

But it *is* intrinsic to the story-line. Neo *is* the One. In the Matrix
universe that's a science of it's own. It's not trite, or an excuse, in
context.

Post by cybersoldier01
I had wanted
to avoid, as much as possible, using this sort of argument in my discourse.
To me, even if the movie is not consistent with what we perceive as reality,
at the very least it needs to be consistent with itself and its own claims
in order for the audience to suspend - if only for two hours - disbelief.
CS

Post by Diogo Bastos
Either that or the Wachowskis didn't even think about that which is what
probably happened since they knew there would always be the excuse "Neo is
the one". :p

Post by Sandman

Post by cybersoldier01
I have watched this sequence many, many times, and based on everything

I

Post by Diogo Bastos
am

Post by Sandman

Post by cybersoldier01
seeing I have to wonder: How is it that Trinity survived at all?

Neo is the one.

[JPM III]

--- cybersoldier01 wrote in

Post by cybersoldier01
Well, this excuse - "Neo is the One" - is precisely the type of argument
that seems to be an easy-out when we speak of inconsistencies. I had
wanted to avoid, as much as possible, using this sort of argument in my
discourse.

Sandman either couldn't or didn't want to come up with a feasible
explanation. My guess is that he didn't want to, and his response, "Neo is
the one", was meant to be somewhat amusing. He certainly wasn't trying to
explain anything with that remark... I've been discussing Matrix stuff with
him for a while now, and you'll recognize an explanation from him if he
offers one.

[Sandman]

Post by Diogo Bastos

Post by Sandman

Post by cybersoldier01
I have watched this sequence many, many times, and based on
everything I am seeing I have to wonder: How is it that Trinity
survived at all?

Neo is the one.

Either that or the Wachowskis didn't even think about that which is
what probably happened since they knew there would always be the
excuse "Neo is the one". :p

It's not an excuse, it's explicitly stated in the movies that Neo has the power
to rearrange the Matrix as he sees fit.

[Logan]

also.. just remembering from Morpheous's speach as he was training neo in
the dojo.. things like gravity are pliable in the matrix since it's NOT the
real world.. so him catching trinity no great stretch since he's clearly
moving so fast that he's causing a wake behind him.. a simple use of his
ability to use his "one" code and well if he wanted to catch trinity without
hurting her no big deal...

Post by Sandman

Post by Diogo Bastos

Post by Sandman

Post by cybersoldier01
I have watched this sequence many, many times, and based on
everything I am seeing I have to wonder: How is it that Trinity
survived at all?

Neo is the one.

Either that or the Wachowskis didn't even think about that which is
what probably happened since they knew there would always be the
excuse "Neo is the one". :p

It's not an excuse, it's explicitly stated in the movies that Neo has the power
to rearrange the Matrix as he sees fit.
--
Sandman[.net]

[Sandman]

Post by Logan
also.. just remembering from Morpheous's speach as he was training neo in
the dojo.. things like gravity are pliable in the matrix since it's NOT the
real world.. so him catching trinity no great stretch since he's clearly
moving so fast that he's causing a wake behind him.. a simple use of his
ability to use his "one" code and well if he wanted to catch trinity without
hurting her no big deal...

Exactly - which makes one wonder why he didn't prevent the wake from even
existing. Obviously a lot of people was hurt from it, or even killed.

(visual effect, I know, but other than that...)

[Lord-Data]

Post by Sandman

Post by Logan
also.. just remembering from Morpheous's speach as he was training neo in
the dojo.. things like gravity are pliable in the matrix since it's NOT the
real world.. so him catching trinity no great stretch since he's clearly
moving so fast that he's causing a wake behind him.. a simple use of his
ability to use his "one" code and well if he wanted to catch trinity without
hurting her no big deal...

Exactly - which makes one wonder why he didn't prevent the wake from even
existing. Obviously a lot of people was hurt from it, or even killed.

There was a lot of side-effect happening there .. He coudlnt stop that many
sentinels attacking the ship when he was trying to get to the machine city
.. probably a lot of extra work and thinking/processing to be done per thing
to control .. his sole purpose at that time was to move as fast as he could
.. bugger the consequences .. he just chose the option to destroy humanity
to save his girl, i dont think he really cared about a few thousand pod
people :)

Post by Sandman
(visual effect, I know, but other than that...)
--
Sandman[.net]

[Sandman]

Post by Lord-Data

Post by Sandman

Post by Logan
also.. just remembering from Morpheous's speach as he was training
neo in the dojo.. things like gravity are pliable in the matrix
since it's NOT the real world.. so him catching trinity no great
stretch since he's clearly moving so fast that he's causing a wake
behind him.. a simple use of his ability to use his "one" code and
well if he wanted to catch trinity without hurting her no big
deal...

Exactly - which makes one wonder why he didn't prevent the wake from
even existing. Obviously a lot of people was hurt from it, or even
killed.

There was a lot of side-effect happening there .. He coudlnt stop that
many sentinels attacking the ship when he was trying to get to the
machine city ..

But that's in the real world, so you can't compare it.

Post by Lord-Data
probably a lot of extra work and thinking/processing
to be done per thing to control .. his sole purpose at that time was
to move as fast as he could .. bugger the consequences .. he just
chose the option to destroy humanity to save his girl, i dont think he
really cared about a few thousand pod people :)

Which is the odd part. :)

[Lord-Data]

Post by Sandman

Post by Lord-Data

Post by Sandman

Post by Logan
also.. just remembering from Morpheous's speach as he was training
neo in the dojo.. things like gravity are pliable in the matrix
since it's NOT the real world.. so him catching trinity no great
stretch since he's clearly moving so fast that he's causing a wake
behind him.. a simple use of his ability to use his "one" code and
well if he wanted to catch trinity without hurting her no big
deal...

Exactly - which makes one wonder why he didn't prevent the wake from
even existing. Obviously a lot of people was hurt from it, or even
killed.

There was a lot of side-effect happening there .. He coudlnt stop that
many sentinels attacking the ship when he was trying to get to the
machine city ..

But that's in the real world, so you can't compare it.

True, but it was still his mind, interfacing with the machines to accomplish
something .. No doubt altering/affecting the source externally is more
difficult (and less-trained) to him than being inside the matrix, but i'm
sure the "cleanup" type thing in the matrix when trying to fly that fast
also requires a LOT of hacking .. and he needs to be focussing everything he
has on getting maximum speed ..

Post by Sandman

Post by Lord-Data
probably a lot of extra work and thinking/processing
to be done per thing to control .. his sole purpose at that time was
to move as fast as he could .. bugger the consequences .. he just
chose the option to destroy humanity to save his girl, i dont think he
really cared about a few thousand pod people :)

Which is the odd part. :)
--
Sandman[.net]

[Sandman]

Post by Lord-Data

Post by Sandman

Post by Lord-Data

Post by Sandman
Exactly - which makes one wonder why he didn't prevent the wake
from even existing. Obviously a lot of people was hurt from it, or
even killed.

There was a lot of side-effect happening there .. He coudlnt stop
that many sentinels attacking the ship when he was trying to get to
the machine city ..

But that's in the real world, so you can't compare it.

True, but it was still his mind, interfacing with the machines to
accomplish something

We don't know that. We have a pretty good idea of how he is able to hack the
matrix, but we have no idea how he manages to blow up the sentinels. Fact is,
he would probably have no problem blowing up millions of them if he was inside
the matrix.

Post by Lord-Data
.. No doubt altering/affecting the source
externally is more difficult (and less-trained) to him than being
inside the matrix, but i'm sure the "cleanup" type thing in the matrix
when trying to fly that fast also requires a LOT of hacking .. and he
needs to be focussing everything he has on getting maximum speed ..

I see no reason to believe this. The "wake" was there purely for visual effect,
as far as the movie goes - but as far as the story goes, having no mass would
enable him to fly even faster for instance - and he wouldn't have a wake.

[JPM III]

Post by Sandman

Post by Logan
also.. just remembering from Morpheous's speach as he was training neo
in the dojo.. things like gravity are pliable in the matrix since it's
NOT the real world.. so him catching trinity no great stretch since
he's clearly moving so fast that he's causing a wake behind him.. a
simple use of his ability to use his "one" code and well if he wanted
to catch trinity without hurting her no big deal...

Exactly - which makes one wonder why he didn't prevent the wake from even
existing. Obviously a lot of people was hurt from it, or even killed.

Because he's not trying to save the human race. He's trying to save Trinity.

Let me emphasize what I mean: Preserving humanity is high on his list of
priorities, but preserving Trinity is higher.

[Sandman]

Post by JPM III

Post by Sandman

Post by Logan
also.. just remembering from Morpheous's speach as he was training neo
in the dojo.. things like gravity are pliable in the matrix since it's
NOT the real world.. so him catching trinity no great stretch since
he's clearly moving so fast that he's causing a wake behind him.. a
simple use of his ability to use his "one" code and well if he wanted
to catch trinity without hurting her no big deal...

Exactly - which makes one wonder why he didn't prevent the wake from even
existing. Obviously a lot of people was hurt from it, or even killed.

Because he's not trying to save the human race. He's trying to save Trinity.
Let me emphasize what I mean: Preserving humanity is high on his list of
priorities, but preserving Trinity is higher.

Wrong answer.

[Lord-Data]

Post by Sandman

Post by JPM III

Post by Sandman

Post by Logan
also.. just remembering from Morpheous's speach as he was training neo
in the dojo.. things like gravity are pliable in the matrix since it's
NOT the real world.. so him catching trinity no great stretch since
he's clearly moving so fast that he's causing a wake behind him.. a
simple use of his ability to use his "one" code and well if he wanted
to catch trinity without hurting her no big deal...

Exactly - which makes one wonder why he didn't prevent the wake from even
existing. Obviously a lot of people was hurt from it, or even killed.

Because he's not trying to save the human race. He's trying to save Trinity.
Let me emphasize what I mean: Preserving humanity is high on his list of
priorities, but preserving Trinity is higher.

Wrong answer.

How so?

The architech offered him 2 simple choices. Very plain and clear. Choose to
save humanity itself, but lose the individuals he knows (destory zion,
reload matrix, reseed zion), or choose to lose everything, in an attempt to
save Trinity. The only individual promised to be saved, if even that. (pod
people die, zion is destoryed, matrix does not reload, no humans left). He
chose to attempt to save Trinity, regardless of his odds of doing so,
regardless of the impact this could have on humanity at large. He clearly,
and simply, put Trinity's life, above the fate of humanity at large. He
CHOSE to desert the human race at that point. He had no thoughts of what he
was going to do after that. He had no plans. He didnt formulate any idea of
what was to come next till part way into revolutions. His SOLE goal at that
point, was to save Trinity, consequences be damned. Hence the architects
comments that Neo had something different than previous ones. He had a love.
The others obviously didnt. This gave him an emotional responce that was
capable of overriding logic and rational thinking, and it allowed him to
make the "right choice", justified by the end result.

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Sandman[.net]

[Sandman]

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Post by Logan
also.. just remembering from Morpheous's speach as he was training
neo in the dojo.. things like gravity are pliable in the matrix
since it's NOT the real world.. so him catching trinity no great
stretch since he's clearly moving so fast that he's causing a wake
behind him.. a simple use of his ability to use his "one" code and
well if he wanted to catch trinity without hurting her no big
deal...

Exactly - which makes one wonder why he didn't prevent the wake
from even existing. Obviously a lot of people was hurt from it, or
even killed.

Because he's not trying to save the human race. He's trying to save Trinity.
Let me emphasize what I mean: Preserving humanity is high on his
list of priorities, but preserving Trinity is higher.

Wrong answer.

How so?

Simple - having no mass, physically speaking, would make him fly faster and
thus saving Trinity faster, plus not making a wake. There is no reason for him
not to do this.

[Lord-Data]

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Post by Lord-Data

Post by Sandman

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Post by Logan
also.. just remembering from Morpheous's speach as he was training
neo in the dojo.. things like gravity are pliable in the matrix
since it's NOT the real world.. so him catching trinity no great
stretch since he's clearly moving so fast that he's causing a wake
behind him.. a simple use of his ability to use his "one" code and
well if he wanted to catch trinity without hurting her no big
deal...

Exactly - which makes one wonder why he didn't prevent the wake
from even existing. Obviously a lot of people was hurt from it, or
even killed.

Because he's not trying to save the human race. He's trying to save Trinity.
Let me emphasize what I mean: Preserving humanity is high on his
list of priorities, but preserving Trinity is higher.

Wrong answer.

How so?

Simple - having no mass, physically speaking, would make him fly faster and
thus saving Trinity faster, plus not making a wake. There is no reason for him
not to do this.

I'd say the system has something of a physics program .. everything seems to
have a program to control it.. Neo is simply hacking/by passing parts of it
.. the wake is the programs attempts at registering what happened ..
something moved bloody fast, so the phsyics program renders a wake .. he can
still be existing without any forces acting directly on him, such as
mass/gravity ..

Post by Sandman
--
Sandman[.net]

[Logan]

just the same as you can bend certain rules in a computer system..

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Post by Logan
also.. just remembering from Morpheous's speach as he was training
neo in the dojo.. things like gravity are pliable in the matrix
since it's NOT the real world.. so him catching trinity no great
stretch since he's clearly moving so fast that he's causing a wake
behind him.. a simple use of his ability to use his "one" code and
well if he wanted to catch trinity without hurting her no big
deal...

Exactly - which makes one wonder why he didn't prevent the wake
from even existing. Obviously a lot of people was hurt from it, or
even killed.

Because he's not trying to save the human race. He's trying to save Trinity.
Let me emphasize what I mean: Preserving humanity is high on his
list of priorities, but preserving Trinity is higher.

Wrong answer.

How so?

Simple - having no mass, physically speaking, would make him fly faster

and

Post by Sandman
thus saving Trinity faster, plus not making a wake. There is no reason

for

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him

Post by Sandman
not to do this.

I'd say the system has something of a physics program .. everything seems to
have a program to control it.. Neo is simply hacking/by passing parts of it
.. the wake is the programs attempts at registering what happened ..
something moved bloody fast, so the phsyics program renders a wake .. he can
still be existing without any forces acting directly on him, such as
mass/gravity ..

Post by Sandman
--
Sandman[.net]

[Sandman]

Post by Lord-Data

Post by Sandman

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Post by Sandman
Wrong answer.

How so?

Simple - having no mass, physically speaking, would make him fly
faster and thus saving Trinity faster, plus not making a wake. There
is no reason for him not to do this.

I'd say the system has something of a physics program .. everything
seems to have a program to control it.. Neo is simply hacking/by
passing parts of it .. the wake is the programs attempts at
registering what happened .. something moved bloody fast, so the
phsyics program renders a wake .. he can still be existing without any
forces acting directly on him, such as mass/gravity ..

Your explanation would mean that the system would kill Trinity aat that speed.
Neo is quite apparently doing something to physics in order to be able to catch
Trinity, if he did the same thing when he flew, he could fly faster.

[Lord-Data]

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Wrong answer.

How so?

Simple - having no mass, physically speaking, would make him fly
faster and thus saving Trinity faster, plus not making a wake. There
is no reason for him not to do this.

I'd say the system has something of a physics program .. everything
seems to have a program to control it.. Neo is simply hacking/by
passing parts of it .. the wake is the programs attempts at
registering what happened .. something moved bloody fast, so the
phsyics program renders a wake .. he can still be existing without any
forces acting directly on him, such as mass/gravity ..

Your explanation would mean that the system would kill Trinity aat that speed.
Neo is quite apparently doing something to physics in order to be able to catch
Trinity, if he did the same thing when he flew, he could fly faster.

Shes not wired into the system like a pod person.. he could as easily
isolate her from the physics program as he does to himself ..

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--
Sandman[.net]

[Sandman]

Post by Lord-Data

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Post by Sandman
Wrong answer.

How so?

Simple - having no mass, physically speaking, would make him fly
faster and thus saving Trinity faster, plus not making a wake.
There is no reason for him not to do this.

I'd say the system has something of a physics program .. everything
seems to have a program to control it.. Neo is simply hacking/by
passing parts of it .. the wake is the programs attempts at
registering what happened .. something moved bloody fast, so the
phsyics program renders a wake .. he can still be existing without
any forces acting directly on him, such as mass/gravity ..

Your explanation would mean that the system would kill Trinity aat
that speed. Neo is quite apparently doing something to physics in
order to be able to catch Trinity, if he did the same thing when he
flew, he could fly faster.

Shes not wired into the system like a pod person.. he could as easily
isolate her from the physics program as he does to himself ..

That seems lika a very far fetched explanation. There is nothing seen in the
movies that suggests that the physics rules aren't the same regardless of your
connection.

And I don't think there is any difference at all between Trinitys connection to
the system to a "pod person".

[cybersoldier01]

Lord-Data is correct. A pod-person (or a "blue pill", as an operator in M3
called them) is connected all-around: Head, torso, limbs, etc. But those
who were freed are connected via the head jack only, and are *AWARE* that
they are jacked into something other than reality. There is a world of
difference there.

CS

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Post by Sandman
Wrong answer.

How so?

Simple - having no mass, physically speaking, would make him fly
faster and thus saving Trinity faster, plus not making a wake.
There is no reason for him not to do this.

I'd say the system has something of a physics program .. everything
seems to have a program to control it.. Neo is simply hacking/by
passing parts of it .. the wake is the programs attempts at
registering what happened .. something moved bloody fast, so the
phsyics program renders a wake .. he can still be existing without
any forces acting directly on him, such as mass/gravity ..

Your explanation would mean that the system would kill Trinity aat
that speed. Neo is quite apparently doing something to physics in
order to be able to catch Trinity, if he did the same thing when he
flew, he could fly faster.

Shes not wired into the system like a pod person.. he could as easily
isolate her from the physics program as he does to himself ..

That seems lika a very far fetched explanation. There is nothing seen in the
movies that suggests that the physics rules aren't the same regardless of your
connection.
And I don't think there is any difference at all between Trinitys connection to
the system to a "pod person".
--
Sandman[.net]

[Sandman]

Post by cybersoldier01

Post by Sandman

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Post by Sandman

Post by Lord-Data

Post by Sandman
Wrong answer.

How so?

Simple - having no mass, physically speaking, would make him fly
faster and thus saving Trinity faster, plus not making a wake.
There is no reason for him not to do this.

I'd say the system has something of a physics program ..
everything seems to have a program to control it.. Neo is simply
hacking/by passing parts of it .. the wake is the programs
attempts at registering what happened .. something moved bloody
fast, so the phsyics program renders a wake .. he can still be
existing without any forces acting directly on him, such as
mass/gravity ..

Your explanation would mean that the system would kill Trinity aat
that speed. Neo is quite apparently doing something to physics in
order to be able to catch Trinity, if he did the same thing when he
flew, he could fly faster.

Shes not wired into the system like a pod person.. he could as
easily isolate her from the physics program as he does to himself ..

That seems lika a very far fetched explanation. There is nothing seen
in the movies that suggests that the physics rules aren't the same
regardless of your connection.
And I don't think there is any difference at all between Trinitys
connection to the system to a "pod person".

Lord-Data is correct. A pod-person (or a "blue pill", as an operator
in M3 called them) is connected all-around: Head, torso, limbs, etc.
But those who were freed are connected via the head jack only, and are
*AWARE* that they are jacked into something other than reality. There
is a world of difference there.

No, that's not correct at all. Pod persons are connected in more places
presumably because of nourishment and control. To interface with the Matrix,
the brain jack is all that is needed (obviously).

There is nothing in the movie that suggests that the connections in pod peoples
arms mean they have a firmer connection to the physics engine inside the
Matrix. The Matrix is electrical signals interpreted by your brain, not your
armpit. :)

[JPM III]

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Post by Sandman
Wrong answer.

How so?

Simple - having no mass, physically speaking, would make him fly
faster and thus saving Trinity faster, plus not making a wake. There
is no reason for him not to do this.

I'd say the system has something of a physics program .. everything
seems to have a program to control it.. Neo is simply hacking/by
passing parts of it .. the wake is the programs attempts at
registering what happened .. something moved bloody fast, so the
phsyics program renders a wake .. he can still be existing without any
forces acting directly on him, such as mass/gravity ..

Your explanation would mean that the system would kill Trinity aat that
speed. Neo is quite apparently doing something to physics in order to be
able to catch Trinity, if he did the same thing when he flew, he could
fly faster.

For that matter, he could "teleport" by simply appearing in another part of
the system's memory... I mean, all he'd have to do is hack his virtual
location...

[Melloccino]

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Post by Sandman
Simple - having no mass, physically speaking, would make him fly
faster and thus saving Trinity faster, plus not making a wake. There
is no reason for him not to do this.

I'd say the system has something of a physics program .. everything
seems to have a program to control it.. Neo is simply hacking/by
passing parts of it .. the wake is the programs attempts at
registering what happened .. something moved bloody fast, so the
phsyics program renders a wake .. he can still be existing without
any forces acting directly on him, such as mass/gravity ..

Precisely. The system attempts to assimilate any, lets call them
discrepencies, caused by other programs through integration of
variables, and this *has* been explicitly stated.

I always come back to the Oracle's speech in M2. Whether she was talking
figuratively/mythically (e.g. a news report like "Freak Tornado Ravages
City Street"), or literally (i.e. the actual matrix system/programs),
I'm not sure that the wider 'system' would differentiate between
"programs hacking programs" as opposed to "Neo causing effects similar
to the hacking of a program", even if the hacked program is less
dynamic/driven than other programs (e.g. 'wind' program vs. an 'agent'
program).

Breaking say, a gravity program (or several programs under the 'physics'
set of programs), doesn't equate to Neo also breaking a 'wind' program,
even though the two would, I expect, be somewhat interdependably
related.

Neo breaks gravity/ mass/ physics components > system detects
error/hack/break > system attempts assimilation of error > 'wind'
program balances 'Neo effect' as the manifestation of Neo's wake.
--
Melloccino.
-----------------
"The heart has its reasons which reason knows nothing of"

The Oracle: A program was written to watch over the trees, and the wind,
the sunrise, and sunset. There are programs runnin' all over the place.
The ones doing their job, doing what they were meant to do, are
invisible. You'd never even know they were here. But the other ones,
well, we hear about them all the time.
***
The Oracle: ... is the system assimilating some program that's doing
something they're not supposed to be doing.

[Lord-Data]

Post by Melloccino

Post by Lord-Data

Post by Sandman
Simple - having no mass, physically speaking, would make him fly
faster and thus saving Trinity faster, plus not making a wake. There
is no reason for him not to do this.

I'd say the system has something of a physics program .. everything
seems to have a program to control it.. Neo is simply hacking/by
passing parts of it .. the wake is the programs attempts at
registering what happened .. something moved bloody fast, so the
phsyics program renders a wake .. he can still be existing without
any forces acting directly on him, such as mass/gravity ..

Precisely. The system attempts to assimilate any, lets call them
discrepencies, caused by other programs through integration of
variables, and this *has* been explicitly stated.
I always come back to the Oracle's speech in M2. Whether she was talking
figuratively/mythically (e.g. a news report like "Freak Tornado Ravages
City Street"), or literally (i.e. the actual matrix system/programs),
I'm not sure that the wider 'system' would differentiate between
"programs hacking programs" as opposed to "Neo causing effects similar
to the hacking of a program", even if the hacked program is less
dynamic/driven than other programs (e.g. 'wind' program vs. an 'agent'
program).
Breaking say, a gravity program (or several programs under the 'physics'
set of programs), doesn't equate to Neo also breaking a 'wind' program,
even though the two would, I expect, be somewhat interdependably
related.
Neo breaks gravity/ mass/ physics components > system detects
error/hack/break > system attempts assimilation of error > 'wind'
program balances 'Neo effect' as the manifestation of Neo's wake.
--
Melloccino.
-----------------
"The heart has its reasons which reason knows nothing of"
The Oracle: A program was written to watch over the trees, and the wind,
the sunrise, and sunset. There are programs runnin' all over the place.
The ones doing their job, doing what they were meant to do, are
invisible. You'd never even know they were here. But the other ones,
well, we hear about them all the time.
***
The Oracle: ... is the system assimilating some program that's doing
something they're not supposed to be doing.

Think, "beyond" (animatrix) perhaps .. the system was having trouble
assimilating a section of broken code .. so it was re-written .. thats where
it gets to the point where it really breaks ..

Perhaps tho, the random appearances and broken parts of the world, were
actually its attempts at assimilation .. think, for example, like if you
took a section of your hard drive, and altered the 1s and 0s on a binary
scale .. at random/with no pattern .. and those bits made up part of an
uncompressed bitmap image .. you could still, in most cases, open the file
.. you would just get random blocks and glitches and artifacts where the
data is no longer what it should be .. its damaged/broken, but the system
renders it .. in beyond, a part of the matrix is broken, and the matrix
renderer (i think beyond even reffers to it as a "rendering anomaly")
attempts to adapt it as best it can .. creating rain where there shouldnt
be, etc

[Logan]

ok. try this. "pod" people arn't even aware that they are hooked up into
the matrix. so they have no control.. it's a simple metaphor for
dreaming. if you odn't know its a dream you dont do anyting but follow
along. but if you know it's a dream completley you can do things.. the
matrix is a computer manifistation of the dream state and lucid dreaming!

Post by Lord-Data

Post by Melloccino

Post by Lord-Data

Post by Sandman
Simple - having no mass, physically speaking, would make him fly
faster and thus saving Trinity faster, plus not making a wake. There
is no reason for him not to do this.

I'd say the system has something of a physics program .. everything
seems to have a program to control it.. Neo is simply hacking/by
passing parts of it .. the wake is the programs attempts at
registering what happened .. something moved bloody fast, so the
phsyics program renders a wake .. he can still be existing without
any forces acting directly on him, such as mass/gravity ..

Precisely. The system attempts to assimilate any, lets call them
discrepencies, caused by other programs through integration of
variables, and this *has* been explicitly stated.
I always come back to the Oracle's speech in M2. Whether she was talking
figuratively/mythically (e.g. a news report like "Freak Tornado Ravages
City Street"), or literally (i.e. the actual matrix system/programs),
I'm not sure that the wider 'system' would differentiate between
"programs hacking programs" as opposed to "Neo causing effects similar
to the hacking of a program", even if the hacked program is less
dynamic/driven than other programs (e.g. 'wind' program vs. an 'agent'
program).
Breaking say, a gravity program (or several programs under the 'physics'
set of programs), doesn't equate to Neo also breaking a 'wind' program,
even though the two would, I expect, be somewhat interdependably
related.
Neo breaks gravity/ mass/ physics components > system detects
error/hack/break > system attempts assimilation of error > 'wind'
program balances 'Neo effect' as the manifestation of Neo's wake.
--
Melloccino.
-----------------
"The heart has its reasons which reason knows nothing of"
The Oracle: A program was written to watch over the trees, and the wind,
the sunrise, and sunset. There are programs runnin' all over the place.
The ones doing their job, doing what they were meant to do, are
invisible. You'd never even know they were here. But the other ones,
well, we hear about them all the time.
***
The Oracle: ... is the system assimilating some program that's doing
something they're not supposed to be doing.

Think, "beyond" (animatrix) perhaps .. the system was having trouble
assimilating a section of broken code .. so it was re-written .. thats where
it gets to the point where it really breaks ..
Perhaps tho, the random appearances and broken parts of the world, were
actually its attempts at assimilation .. think, for example, like if you
took a section of your hard drive, and altered the 1s and 0s on a binary
scale .. at random/with no pattern .. and those bits made up part of an
uncompressed bitmap image .. you could still, in most cases, open the file
.. you would just get random blocks and glitches and artifacts where the
data is no longer what it should be .. its damaged/broken, but the system
renders it .. in beyond, a part of the matrix is broken, and the matrix
renderer (i think beyond even reffers to it as a "rendering anomaly")
attempts to adapt it as best it can .. creating rain where there shouldnt
be, etc

[JPM III]

Post by Melloccino
Precisely. The system attempts to assimilate any, lets call them
discrepencies, caused by other programs through integration of
variables, and this *has* been explicitly stated.
I always come back to the Oracle's speech in M2. Whether she was talking
figuratively/mythically (e.g. a news report like "Freak Tornado Ravages
City Street"), or literally (i.e. the actual matrix system/programs),
I'm not sure that the wider 'system' would differentiate between
"programs hacking programs" as opposed to "Neo causing effects similar
to the hacking of a program", even if the hacked program is less
dynamic/driven than other programs (e.g. 'wind' program vs. an 'agent'
program).
Breaking say, a gravity program (or several programs under the 'physics'
set of programs), doesn't equate to Neo also breaking a 'wind' program,
even though the two would, I expect, be somewhat interdependably
related.
Neo breaks gravity/ mass/ physics components > system detects
error/hack/break > system attempts assimilation of error > 'wind'
program balances 'Neo effect' as the manifestation of Neo's wake.

Perfect explanation.

Sandman is correct, in one sense, that Neo should have (and did) negate his
virtual mass and fly as fast as he could or needed to in order to do what he
wanted to do.

But Neo does not control the system's error check/recovery system. The wind
program was triggered because some virtual volume of no virtual mass passed
through these virtual locations in ways that would be physically (virtually)
impossible... so the system attempted to account for it by extrapolation.

[Melloccino]

--- Melloccino wrote in

This is probably as good a place as any other to mention the
similarities between Trinity at the beginning of Reloaded (no
sunglasses, jumps out window, spins, lays back, gun in each hands) to
the beginning of M1 (when she jumps through windows, spins, lays back,
gun in each hand). Visually, the scenes are almost identical. In M1,
perhaps she delayed the inevitable, as Neo in a sense did, though we'll
never know the alternate paths each could have taken. *shrugs*
--
Melloccino
----------------------------------------
"The heart has its reasons which reason knows nothing of"

[JPM III]

I snipped to save bandwidth and so people could find my response below.

--- cybersoldier01 wrote in

Post by cybersoldier01
3) At some point during Neo journey to the point when he caught Trinity,
we hear a distinct "boom" in the background as he visibly picked up
speed. We cannot say whether he actually broke the sound barrier, but it
is probably safe to assume that he has moved beyond his original speed by
a large margin. (Again, bear in mind that his current speed is
unparalleled by anything Link has ever seen.)

For sake of argument, let's recall that Neo's advertised speed during that
flight before the movie came out was "2000 mph".

Post by cybersoldier01
4) ...should have broken her body immediately.

I'm imagining some kind of air-pressure buffer just before he catches her.
It creates the effect of slowing down and changing direction without it
actually happening, but her body doesn't know the difference, thus allowing
Neo to catch her without slowing down or harming her.

Naturally, it is scientifically impossible in any "real" world, but in the
Matrix Neo can make things happen...

Let's also keep in mind that, after being shot, Trinity's mind is not
concentrating on the fall. If her mind is not aware of the sudden jolt of
Neo catching her, then it doesn't harm her. "Your mind makes it real." So
what you don't know can't hurt you.

(Off-topic: If you're hacked in, can you fall asleep in the Matrix? And if
so, can you be killed while you sleep?)

Finally, if hackers in the Matrix can jump off of buildings and land on
their feet (see Jue in "Final Flight of the Osiris"), then Neo can catch a
falling Trinity no matter how fast or far she falls.

[n2hocky]

Uhhhh....It's a damn movie..get over it.

Post by cybersoldier01
I have watched this sequence many, many times, and based on everything I am
seeing I have to wonder: How is it that Trinity survived at all? Not from
the shot from the agent or from impacting the ground (as Neo's dream would
have it), but from impacting NEO when he caught her?
1) When Neo exploded out of the building where he met the Architect, Link
said that he was moving faster than anything he has ever seen. We are going
to assume for a moment that Link has seen how fast a bullet moves inside the
Matrix, and that it does not cause his Matrix feed to react the way Neo did
when he raced into the Winslow Overpass to save Morpheus and the Keymaker.
(The exact speed of a fired bullet is not as relevant as my next points.)
2) Trinity was on the sixty-fifth floor when she encountered and fought the
agent. Both Link and the security camera at the sleepy guard's station
confirmed that she is indeed on the sixty-fifth floor (the next time you
watch the security monitor, note the lower right-hand corner the words "LEV
65-S7" - the "S7" probably meaning "sector 7"). When she began falling out
of the window she was moving in a straight, downward direction, with no
horizontal motion.
3) At some point during Neo journey to the point when he caught Trinity, we
hear a distinct "boom" in the background as he visibly picked up speed.

We

Post by cybersoldier01
cannot say whether he actually broke the sound barrier, but it is probably
safe to assume that he has moved beyond his original speed by a large
margin. (Again, bear in mind that his current speed is unparalleled by
anything Link has ever seen.)
4) When he managed to catch Trinity, she was not in a position to
anticipate his presence and therefore has no way of bracing herself or
adjusting for his tremendous speed. At any rate, she should have died upon
impact with Neo who was travelling at a tremendous speed. She should not
have lived later at all, much less uttered anything to Neo upon landing on
the roof of a nearby building. Even if Neo was "only" travelling at the
speed of an average bullet coming out of a handgun, the energy coming from
Neo's body mass (which we assume to exist inside the Matrix, as evidenced by
so many Kung Fu fights) and travelling at such speed should have broken her
body immediately.
5) There is only one exception to #4 above: If he was somehow able to stop
briefly to allow for his overall momentum to drop to zero, catch Trinity,
and then resume his previous speed. From the way he can take off into the
night sky to the way he can suddenly halt on top of where the Oracle used to
hold her "auditions", we assume that that is not out of the question for The
One. However, nothing we have seen in this particular sequence could
substantiate this claim. One moment she was going downward, the next moment
she was going horizontal.
6) Finally, we note that she fell from the sixty-fifth floor. In his
conversation with the Oracle, Neo noted that he saw Trinity in his vision,
and then she began to fall. We are going to assume that Neo thinks that if
Trinity falls to the ground from that height, she will die (otherwise, he
would not have sufficient reason to save her, as she would simply be alright
or mildly inconvenienced). So death is at stake, by merely falling out of
the sixty-fifth floor. Assuming that each floor is 8 feet in height, she
would take about four seconds or so to impact the ground (we assume that
"basic rules" like gravity operate normally in this scenario), at which
point she would be travelling close to 130 feet per second, or about 88
miles per hour. Math is approximate, but you see the point: If she dies
from merely impacting the ground, she would be pulverized by hitting Neo,
who is travelling at unheard-of speed.
Anyway, I've used enough brain cells to post these thoughts. Any
takers/responders?
CS

[JPM III]

Heheh.

Well, that's one way of handling it.

Post by n2hocky
Uhhhh....It's a damn movie..get over it.