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The Matrix Question - Is neo Saviour or Destroyer?
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neo
2007-08-12 13:00:42 UTC
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1. Every person in matrix was connected to their real body.

2. If a person in matrix dies, his/her real body dies.

3. Agent smith imprints all persons in matrix.

4. neo destroys all smiths in the end.

5. That means real bodies of all people in matrix are dead.

Where am I making mistake to interpret the things?
Carrie
2007-08-12 14:17:17 UTC
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Post by neo
1. Every person in matrix was connected to their real body.
2. If a person in matrix dies, his/her real body dies.
3. Agent smith imprints all persons in matrix.
4. neo destroys all smiths in the end.
5. That means real bodies of all people in matrix are dead.
Where am I making mistake to interpret the things?
Neo (the One) is going to rescue people in the Matrix from
themselves
(and the machines that are using them)

Give them freedom. Give them a destroyed world, where everything
they
thought was reality and "life" really isn't. Whether they want this
or not?

That's one way of interpreting it (the overall movie- trilagy)

Might also be a lesson, or something to think about, in giving
people
what one thinks is "the truth", for their own good, of course. Why
not let
everyone have their own version/interpretation of reality and truth?
Just
make one's own choices around it.

And, what would the movies(s) been like without the prediction of
"The One" and Neo being that One? Was he really "The One" or only
because of the BELIEFS of the others who saw him that way?

I watched The Matrix and Reloaded yesterday. I have "Revolution"
but see online there's another "Into the Matrix"? But it's called a
trilogy which implies THREE.

I have heard some feel this is a movie showing what ACIM teaches,
all is mind and the world/Matrix illusion. But, to me, I start
thinking "okay so where are the bodies/minds the machines are keeping
alive to feed on, making them think they are in the world- which is
illusion?"

Seems like where the bodies are kept the machines are feeding on,
would (according to ACIM) also be illusion. And The Matrix an illusion
within an illusion?

Great special effects, though.
Tera Free Nws
2007-08-12 16:41:36 UTC
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Post by Carrie
That's one way of interpreting it (the overall movie- trilagy)
Might also be a lesson, or something to think about, in giving
people
what one thinks is "the truth", for their own good, of course. Why
not let
everyone have their own version/interpretation of reality and truth?
Just
make one's own choices around it.
Well lets see, oh brilliant one.

Because if everyone was allowed their own version/interpretation of
the truth, the
Nazi would be a right as the Jews and Nazi truth would be as right as
Jewish truth.

And the Course does not teach relative truth, but absolute truth,
which is the standard by which we understand genocide is NOT in
alignment with absolute truth.

Moreover it is not a question of "letting," someone have their own
version/interpretation of reality and truth, that can hardly be
stopped, Rather and clearly when everyone has different and equally
true version of reality and "truth, conflict is inevitable and largely
unavoidable, unless someone wishes to moderate free choices which lead
to conflict.

So here's a Carrie question to Carrie.

Who is going to moderate and decide what free choices of various
versions of reality are allowed and or not allowed?

Stop mumbling, Carrie and answer the question.
Carrie
2007-08-12 19:36:11 UTC
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Post by Tera Free Nws
Post by Carrie
That's one way of interpreting it (the overall movie- trilagy)
Might also be a lesson, or something to think about, in giving
people
what one thinks is "the truth", for their own good, of course. Why
not let
everyone have their own version/interpretation of reality and truth?
Just
make one's own choices around it.
Well lets see, oh brilliant one.
Because if everyone was allowed their own version/interpretation of
the truth, the
Nazi would be a right as the Jews and Nazi truth would be as right as
Jewish truth.
And the Course does not teach relative truth, but absolute truth,
which is the standard by which we understand genocide is NOT in
alignment with absolute truth.
Moreover it is not a question of "letting," someone have their own
version/interpretation of reality and truth, that can hardly be
stopped, Rather and clearly when everyone has different and equally
true version of reality and "truth, conflict is inevitable and largely
unavoidable, unless someone wishes to moderate free choices which lead
to conflict.
So here's a Carrie question to Carrie.
Who is going to moderate and decide what free choices of various
versions of reality are allowed and or not allowed?
Stop mumbling, Carrie and answer the question.
What has this got to do with the Matrix movies?
Tera Free Nws
2007-08-12 20:19:22 UTC
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Post by Carrie
What has this got to do with the Matrix movies?
~What does relative truth have to do with ACIM?
Al Smith
2007-08-12 17:24:58 UTC
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Post by neo
1. Every person in matrix was connected to their real body.
2. If a person in matrix dies, his/her real body dies.
3. Agent smith imprints all persons in matrix.
4. neo destroys all smiths in the end.
5. That means real bodies of all people in matrix are dead.
Where am I making mistake to interpret the things?
Smith simply takes over those in the Matrix, he doesn't kill them.
It's a kind of temporary possession.

-Al-
Fedallah
2007-08-12 18:23:42 UTC
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False Dichotomy.

-Rick
TBerk
2007-08-13 22:43:53 UTC
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the Smiths don't _become_ the people, they overlay the people.

Destroying all the Smiths means the 'virus' had been deleted from
them. (So to speak).


Trouble is these films seem to have lost their way in describing
anything that made any sense.

Just a good shoot-em up? OK, what about a philosophy seminar?, OK. How
about a hedonistic bohemia vs 50s/70' era plastic-ville. m'OK...
maybe.

But ALL these?
And SciFi pretensions too?
And Kung-Fu on top of it all?

Just how many things can you add to the coleslaw before it becomes a
compost heap?



TBerk

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