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Barbi Satin
2006-05-05 14:14:31 UTC
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In the Mexican and in most Latin cultures a male is not a "macho" until he
has ten children at least. A spokesman for the illegals has said the white
race is old and tired and do not love children, "Our love of children makes
us strong".



Unless you are ready to swallow the Red Pill don’t read the rest of this.



"And the lord said, "be fruitful and multiply". That was good advice when
it was written in an under populated world. The US population is now at the
edge of 300 million and world population has reached 7 billion.



Agent Smith: I'd like to share a revelation that I've had during my time
here. It came to me when I tried to classify your species. I realized that
you're not actually mammals. Every mammal on this planet instinctively
develops a natural equilibrium with the surrounding environment, but you
humans do not. You move to an area, and you multiply, and multiply, until
every natural resource is consumed. The only way you can survive is to
spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that
follows the same pattern. A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of
this planet, you are a plague, and we are the cure.



We are told that we need Mexican labor. Bring in another 20 million and we
have a slave class to perform the most menial of tasks. A slave population
that will continue to breed as the rest of America also continues to breed.



A population that will require yet more energy and need to burn more oil
and coal. A population that will use more pesticides and nitrogen based
fertilizer. A population that will need to clear-cut forests to make room
for yet more agriculture. Google peak oil and aquifer depletion.



Global warming is real and the real cause is population. Our planet is
starting to fight back to destroy a plague and we are the disease. The US is
now a totalitarian state run by a dictator who has declared himself above
the law and congress does nothing. Why? Once you pass a critical population
mass only a dictatorship will be able to keep control.

Why are we in Iraq? Of course one answer is oil but the rabbit hole goes
deeper. We are there to commit mass genocide to reduce an undesirable
population.

http://www.bushflash.com/pl_lo.html



The war in Iraq is a nuclear war. Depleted Uranium has a half life of 4.5
billion years. The people of Iraq will not survive to see the 22nd century.
Bush recently made a deal with India to allow them to produce 200 hydrogen
warheads while at the same time making a deal with nuclear Pakistan to sell
them fighter jets that can deliver nukes. Arming two mortal enemies with
nukes? Sounds insane and it is insane but there is a reason. Bush wants them
to go to war. It will lead to a huge reduction in world population in Asia.
China will suffer from massive radiation poisoning in a nuclear exchange
between Pakistan and India.

G.H. Bush once said that the average American equals one FU. Fodder Unit!
What is the New World Order? The New World Order is a corporate police state
designed to commit mass genocide. It is designed to channel enough wealth to
an elite class to allow them to survive the coming climate change. The flood
is coming and the NWO is building the ark. Why deny global warming? The
answer is that the NWO wants it to happen to purge this planet. With each
passing year the NWO will clamp down tighter until there is no freedom left
in the US.

Our traditional systems of religion and thought have caused this mess and
will continue to fuel the decline. Is there a solution? There is a solution
that will allow us more freedom than ever before in many ways but will
violate the biological imperative to reproduce.

Look at what happens in areas where highly educated people have low
birthrates. Crime is reduced; wealth is increase along with the standard of
living. Children are raised to think and to value freedom. Liberal ideology
becomes mainstream thought in these areas. There is freedom of choice for
alternative sexuality. Most children go on to get a college education.
Religion declines and is replaced by rationalism.



The world reacted with outrage when China passed laws limiting reproduction
to one child per lifetime. Please tell me what other choice they had? At the
rate the people of China were having children it would have lead to a mass
die off.



As a species we have failed. We can meet the coming crises by becoming
barbarians or we can meet it by accepting certain hard truths and
transforming society using a new and radical model. We must reduce our
population by 95% over the next three generations to save our species and
our Earth.



Thank you for electing me dictator of the world. The job comes with a cool
leather uniform! My first proclamation is that you all now have nearly
total freedom. The model for my new world is the US Constitution with an
expanded bill of rights.



I am very sorry but the one area where you will not have freedom
is reproduction. Only the best and brightest from each race of man will be
allowed to have children. The children will be raised at schools in remote
areas. They will not be taught religion at all. All the worlds’ religious
texts will be ignored and then destroyed. They will be taught to value
freedom above all things. They will learn of science, art, philosophy,
non-Euclidian geometry and calculus. They will learn to treat the planet as
a fragile egg to be cherished and protected.



After the first generation is raised on rationalism only they
will reproduce until the rest of the world population passes to dust along
with archaic culture and religion. The human race will be a race of Hawking’s
and Einstein’s. We will use genetics to increase lifespan to near infinity
and breed only for replacements. We will reach out and sail among the stars.
The new humans with unlimited life span will not be driven by the fear of
death and the hopelessness that goes with it.





“Imagine there's no countries
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion too
Imagine all the people
Living life in peace”



Morpheus: The Matrix is everywhere, it is all around us. Even now, in this
very room. You can see it when you look out your window, or when you turn on
your television. You can feel it when you go to work, or when go to church
or when you pay your taxes. It is the world that has been pulled over your
eyes to blind you from the truth.
Neo: What truth?
Morpheus: That you are a slave, Neo. Like everyone else, you were born into
bondage, born inside a prison that you cannot smell, taste, or touch. A
prison for your mind. (long pause, sighs) Unfortunately, no one can be told
what the Matrix is. You have to see it for yourself. This is your last
chance. After this, there is no turning back.
(In his left hand, Morpheus shows a blue pill.)
Morpheus: You take the blue pill and the story ends. You wake in your bed
and believe whatever you want to believe. (a red pill is shown in his other
hand) You take the red pill and you stay in Wonderland and I show you how
deep the rabbit-hole goes. (Long pause; Neo begins to reach for the red
pill) Remember -- all I am offering is the truth, nothing more.
(Neo takes the red pill and swallows it with a glass of water)



This transmission of Radio Free Zion is Over.



all I am offering is the truth, nothing more.
Istlota
2006-05-05 15:53:59 UTC
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Post by Barbi Satin
I am very sorry but the one area where you will not have freedom
is reproduction. Only the best and brightest from each race of man will be
allowed to have children. The children will be raised at schools in remote
areas. They will not be taught religion at all.
Why are you using the future tense verb, "will"? Your plan is already in
place and working as designed.

You control the White House, both houses of Congress, the Supreme Court,
and, in truth, the entire executive branch of the country. So, yes, you
were, in a sense, elected and you are, in fact, our dictator.

As our elected dictator, you have already put in place your Master Plan for
restricting the number of children in our world. You are our dictator, so of
course you get to choose which kids from each race get to exist. So, of
course, your superior intellect determined that most of these superior kids
looked like you.

You didn't have to prevent the other "inferior" kids from being born. It was
easier just to conviince them to kill each other. First, you imprisoned
their fathers to remove them from the home. Then, you locked their mothers
into low paying jobs to keep them out of the home for most of each day..

Next, you made sure that the nighborhoods these "inferior" kids grew up in
had an abundant supply of drugs, guns, and alcohol. Such poisons are not
manufactured in the ghettos where these kids live, but you control the
executive branch of government. So, allowing guns, drugs, and alcohol, into
the ghettos, and the barrios, was no problem at all for you.

Good work, Barbi. But, wait, let's use your original name. Not Satin. Not
Satan ... Set.

Sorry, old friend, Originator of the Lie. But, I regret to inform you that
there is this one major flaw in your Master Plan ... the Principle of Cause
and Effect.

"You were right. You were right all the time. Everything does have a
beginning and an end."


Istlota
JPM III
2006-06-05 21:56:42 UTC
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Post by Istlota
You control the White House, both houses of Congress, the Supreme Court,
and, in truth, the entire executive branch of the country. So, yes, you
were, in a sense, elected and you are, in fact, our dictator.
Not true at all. Those who pay attention who dislike what's going on are
very vocal, and have significant power. Democrats and liberals are not
suppressed or killed for disagreeing with their government. Not to mention,
this is a democracy, and the next electoral cycle is coming around. A
well-organized opposition party can overcome any party in power in America,
especially if the party with majority control of many levels of government
is really doing such a horrible job.

But, really, it's not the party's fault. It's the people's. Everyone
involved is human, and humans make mistakes. And, like it or not,
Republicans don't make more mistakes than Democrats, or vice versa. It's not
that simple. Things happen, and people are more interested in slinging blame
around like currency than they are about finding actual solutions to the
problems.

Who we choose to lead us is not the problem. Our lack of resolve to actually
DO anything ourselves (like volunteer when volunteers would be useful) is
the problem in this country.

Our problem is that AMERICAN POLITICS IS BASED ON OPPOSITION. We don't work
together, and we never intend to. We only seek to destroy our political
opponents, all the while trying to teach their children to think just like
ourselves. Because, deep down, too many of us want everyone else to think
just like we do. And, my my, what a worthless existence that would be.
Istlota
2006-06-06 02:45:38 UTC
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.... Democrats and liberals are not
suppressed or killed for disagreeing with their government.
How would we know? Forces within our government could arrest you tomorrow,
feed a line to the major media outlets about you having Al-Qaida
connections, and 90% of Americans would accept it as the gospel truth.
Compared to lying about Weapons of Mass Destruction, lying about suppressing
or killing ordinary citizens would be child's play.
Not to mention,
this is a democracy, and the next electoral cycle is coming around. A
well-organized opposition party can overcome any party in power in America,
especially if the party with majority control of many levels of government
is really doing such a horrible job.
Yes, this is still a democracy .. well, sort of ... but the people can be so
easily manipulated. All it took was one well-timed audio clip to kill Howard
Dean's candidacy. One manufactured 9/11 type incident, or a new war (such as
one with Iran) would ensure that the Right retains control of the country.
Our problem is that AMERICAN POLITICS IS BASED ON OPPOSITION. We don't work
together, and we never intend to. We only seek to destroy our political
opponents, all the while trying to teach their children to think just like
ourselves. Because, deep down, too many of us want everyone else to think
just like we do. And, my my, what a worthless existence that would be.
I would put it differently. We would fix the important problems if we ever
could agree on what they are. But, we live in a culture designed to keep us
focused on little, but highly divisive, issues. How else could it be that
the US is on the brink of going to war in Iran, yet the most volative issues
for Americans are gay couple marriage and immigration restrictions?

We are being manipulated .. just as the Matrix manipulated the minds of the
copper tops.

Istlota
JPM III
2006-06-07 22:41:51 UTC
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Post by Istlota
.... Democrats and liberals are not
suppressed or killed for disagreeing with their government.
How would we know? Forces within our government could arrest you tomorrow,
feed a line to the major media outlets about you having Al-Qaida
connections, and 90% of Americans would accept it as the gospel truth.
Compared to lying about Weapons of Mass Destruction, lying about suppressing
or killing ordinary citizens would be child's play.
If you want to be a conspiracy theorist, you go right ahead. You believe
what no one else can prove. You believe what has no evidential support.
That's your choice.

The fact is, we are all ignorant of anything beyond the realm of our own
observation, but you are so self-righteously biased that you choose to
believe the contradictions to the evidence.

I'm not saying you're wrong, but choice and freedom are based on truth. If
you base your choices on the idea that certain believed things are NOT true,
then you're helping to distort the truth. (Or, if you're actually right,
then you'd be one of the few smart ones.)

The problem with a conspiracy theory like yours is the perfection required
to pull it off. Do you really think Republicans are that smart? You're
basically assuming they are so vastly intelligent and well-informed that
they ALL manage to stay on the same page and pull of an unbelievably huge
cover-up without anyone else knowing any better. And, sorry, this is the
information age. SOMEONE would see it and know better, and it would be
proven.

Conspiracy theories are futile and pointless unless they're just for fun.
Post by Istlota
Not to mention,
this is a democracy, and the next electoral cycle is coming around. A
well-organized opposition party can overcome any party in power in
America,
especially if the party with majority control of many levels of government
is really doing such a horrible job.
Yes, this is still a democracy .. well, sort of ... but the people can be so
easily manipulated. All it took was one well-timed audio clip to kill Howard
Dean's candidacy. One manufactured 9/11 type incident, or a new war (such as
one with Iran) would ensure that the Right retains control of the country.
Haha. You really think an audio clip made people vote against Dean? If the
party YOU support is so simple-minded that they can be persuaded by an
overplaid soudbyte, then I would hate to be led by an official those people
want in office. (Obviously, that clip didn't affect the Republicans; they
were never going to vote for Dean anyway.)
Post by Istlota
Our problem is that AMERICAN POLITICS IS BASED ON OPPOSITION. We don't
work
together, and we never intend to. We only seek to destroy our political
opponents, all the while trying to teach their children to think just like
ourselves. Because, deep down, too many of us want everyone else to think
just like we do. And, my my, what a worthless existence that would be.
I would put it differently. We would fix the important problems if we ever
could agree on what they are. But, we live in a culture designed to keep us
focused on little, but highly divisive, issues. How else could it be that
the US is on the brink of going to war in Iran, yet the most volative issues
for Americans are gay couple marriage and immigration restrictions?
We are being manipulated .. just as the Matrix manipulated the minds of the
copper tops.
The culture isn't designed that way. We choose to be that way. We turn on
the TV and get pissed off about stupid things that don't really affect our
lives. Gay marriage? Tax cuts? Oil profits? Sorry people, those issues
aren't hurting us. Alternate energy sources? Stem cell research? Excessive
federal spending? Those are issues that could use our attention.

Yes, we are being manipulated... by each other.
Istlota
2006-06-08 10:09:05 UTC
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Post by JPM III
If you want to be a conspiracy theorist, you go right ahead. You believe
what no one else can prove. You believe what has no evidential support.
That's your choice.
Notice the difference in our perceptions. In your mind, there is an
assumption of the government's innocence until proven otherwise. In my mind,
considering the government's long history of abuses of power, there is an
assumption of the government's guilt until proven otherwise

This is an important distinction because the government _depends_ on the
naivete of citizens such as yourself to get away with its dirty deeds.
Decades later, when proof of the government's sins finally surfaces,
citrizens such as yourself shake your head in wonder ... and then go on with
their lives.

Let me put it in the form of an example, a parable. Let's say I live next to
a elderly nun and a crack head. I come home one day to find my door kicked
in and my TV missing. When the cops arrive and do their investigation, even
in the absence of physical proof, they are going to be highly suspicious of
the crack head. That doesn't make them conspiracy theorists. This makes them
intelligent reasonable human beings.

Who is the "crack head" in world politics? Who do we know, because they end
up having to admit it decades later when the proof finally surfaces, has
authorized the murders of human beings both at home [Tuskegee Syphillis
esperiments] and abroad [Patrice Lumumba, the first _democratically_ elected
leader of the Congo]?

Istlota
JPM III
2006-06-09 17:23:36 UTC
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Post by Istlota
Post by JPM III
If you want to be a conspiracy theorist, you go right ahead. You believe
what no one else can prove. You believe what has no evidential support.
That's your choice.
Notice the difference in our perceptions. In your mind, there is an
assumption of the government's innocence until proven otherwise. In my mind,
considering the government's long history of abuses of power, there is an
assumption of the government's guilt until proven otherwise
Let's break this down one step further:

In your mind, there is an assumption.

In my mind, there is a question. I do not have an answer to that question,
and I dare not assume one way or the other. But since I hope for the best,
then I certainly do not act as though someone is guilty before there is any
*reason* to.
Post by Istlota
This is an important distinction because the government _depends_ on the
naivete of citizens such as yourself to get away with its dirty deeds.
And the enemies of freedom and civilization _depend_ on the presumptuous,
irrational minds such as yours to get away with tearing governments apart.
I'd rather be naive.
Post by Istlota
Decades later, when proof of the government's sins finally surfaces,
citrizens such as yourself shake your head in wonder ... and then go on with
their lives.
Wrong. Citizens like me have been investigating the matters and doing
something about it _when_ something has been proven and there is a course of
action to be taken.

You don't have any idea who you're talking to or what I do, so just shut the
hell up about it.

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