Oracle and Smith at the end of Revolutions

[Trevor Smithon]

Did the Oracle somehow infect Smith when he morphed/overwrote her
earlier in the movie?

[PouchCotato]

Post by Trevor Smithon
Did the Oracle somehow infect Smith when he morphed/overwrote her
earlier in the movie?

My theory is that the Oracle was able to control Smith to a certain
extent. It makes sense to me, because Smith had access to memories of
the people he over took, which implies they weren't deleted... or
something along those lines.

This is also why I believe that Neo let Smith take him over, because Neo
knew he could then control and destroy smith.

My ideas, feel free to disagree.

-PouchCotato

[Trevor Smithon]

The Oracle controlling Smith to a degree makes sense...I just remembered
towards the end of the movie that Smith says, trance like, "Everything
that has a beginning has an end", an Oracle line from earlier in the
film. And Smith's next line is "What'd I just say", and he looks really
confused.

Post by PouchCotato

Post by Trevor Smithon
Did the Oracle somehow infect Smith when he morphed/overwrote her
earlier in the movie?

My theory is that the Oracle was able to control Smith to a certain
extent. It makes sense to me, because Smith had access to memories of
the people he over took, which implies they weren't deleted... or
something along those lines.
This is also why I believe that Neo let Smith take him over, because Neo
knew he could then control and destroy smith.
My ideas, feel free to disagree.
-PouchCotato

[Diogo Bastos]

The way I see things Smith was a virus-like entity. Just as an example: when
a file in your computer is infected by a virus, it's basic functionality is
still there. Let's say if, for example, freecell was infected by a virus the
game would still run albeit with a probably undesired side-effect which
would, for example, pop-up an annoying advertising window. In the case of
the Matrix, the virus (Smith) would infect some other entity - like the
Oracle or any other person/program. The undesired side-effect would be that
the virus would have most of the control over the program/person's avatar
but isn't it plausible to consider that at least some of the original host
would still be active, the same way that happens in a "real" computer virus?

Post by Trevor Smithon
The Oracle controlling Smith to a degree makes sense...I just remembered
towards the end of the movie that Smith says, trance like, "Everything
that has a beginning has an end", an Oracle line from earlier in the film.
And Smith's next line is "What'd I just say", and he looks really
confused.

Post by PouchCotato

Post by Trevor Smithon
Did the Oracle somehow infect Smith when he morphed/overwrote her
earlier in the movie?

My theory is that the Oracle was able to control Smith to a certain
extent. It makes sense to me, because Smith had access to memories of the
people he over took, which implies they weren't deleted... or something
along those lines.
This is also why I believe that Neo let Smith take him over, because Neo
knew he could then control and destroy smith.
My ideas, feel free to disagree.
-PouchCotato

[JPM III]

Post by PouchCotato

Post by Trevor Smithon
Did the Oracle somehow infect Smith when he morphed/overwrote her
earlier in the movie?

My theory is that the Oracle was able to control Smith to a certain
extent. It makes sense to me, because Smith had access to memories of
the people he over took, which implies they weren't deleted... or
something along those lines.

I think Smith only hacked their shells; that is, their digital human forms.
He could not take over their physical location in the power plants (at least
not yet), and he could not replicate himself into the Matrix's unused space
without a shell to copy to.

Post by PouchCotato
This is also why I believe that Neo let Smith take him over, because
Neo knew he could then control and destroy smith.

I don't think Neo did anything except die in that scene (his human form, any
way). As soon as Smith took over Neo's digital form in the Matrix, then the
machines had direct access to Smith's code and could eradicate him.

Post by PouchCotato
My ideas, feel free to disagree.

Same here. :) Dissenting interpretations are interesting.

[PouchCotato]

Post by JPM III

Post by PouchCotato

Post by Trevor Smithon
Did the Oracle somehow infect Smith when he morphed/overwrote her
earlier in the movie?

My theory is that the Oracle was able to control Smith to a certain
extent. It makes sense to me, because Smith had access to memories of
the people he over took, which implies they weren't deleted... or
something along those lines.

I think Smith only hacked their shells; that is, their digital human forms.
He could not take over their physical location in the power plants (at least
not yet), and he could not replicate himself into the Matrix's unused space
without a shell to copy to.

Post by PouchCotato
This is also why I believe that Neo let Smith take him over, because
Neo knew he could then control and destroy smith.

I don't think Neo did anything except die in that scene (his human form, any
way). As soon as Smith took over Neo's digital form in the Matrix, then the
machines had direct access to Smith's code and could eradicate him.

Post by PouchCotato
My ideas, feel free to disagree.

Same here. :) Dissenting interpretations are interesting.

I watched revolutions again the other day (a few weeks ago now probably,
where does the time go?) and at the end Neo is still 'Gold-Coded'. Now I
ask you this, why is it that when Bain/Smith died, the code disseminated
(is that the word?), but when Neo 'died', he was still a gold code?

I believe that Neo was still alive at the end of Revolutions, and I
don't think there is any proof that you can show me that prooves otherwise.

[JPM III]

Post by Trevor Smithon
Did the Oracle somehow infect Smith when he morphed/overwrote her
earlier in the movie?

THEORY 1

As the experience with the Oracle's shell proved, any time Smith takes over
a shell (body) in the Matrix, he has complete access to their minds, or at
least the portion of their minds that are digitally active within the
Matrix. This is perhaps doubly so for machine programs, who are entirely
digital.

THEORY 2

The Oracle is a much more powerful program than any ordinary program or
human mind running in the Matrix, and therefore she was able to overpower
the Smith shell in order to get a few words out here and there.



Smith only hacked through the shell of each being he took over. This is made
obvious when we see Sati wake up on the side of the street at the end of the
movie. He didn't have the power to actually replicate himself in the empty
space of the Matrix, or else he would have.

My question, however, is: Why weren't there thousands of confused humans
lining the streets where all the fallen Smith clones had been left?

My answer, though only speculation, is: the system relocated each human to a
more appropriate location, or perhaps simply put them to sleep for a few
minutes while the Matrix was reloaded. Since this is never addressed,
though, there's no way to know for sure.